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  • dixie
    03-20 04:10 PM
    I see that there is a lack of understanding about what "special" labor cert means.In the context of univ profs it means that the university is allowed to justify hiring an alien based on the fact that he was the BEST qualified candidate for the postion - that is, the univ is allowed to reject other minimally qualified applicants. This is currently not the case for other junta in either EB-2 or EB-3 .. if ANY minimally qualified american citizen / PR is found, the labor cert is denied.

    If this is extended to EB2 / people with advanced STEM degrees as Frist Bill proposes, the labor cert will become quicker and painless for these folks (not to mention the immigration attorneys and the employers).




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  • eager_immi
    07-17 10:31 PM
    First of let me tell you life is not fair. All BEC people everyone in this forum empathizes with you esp me since my husband is also a victm, even if they say u should have filed in PERM. I know for a lot of folks this was not a choice for you to make sometimes it is the company, lawyer, ur job situation that is the determining factor. So, please hang in there and contribute without bad mouthing IV. Maybe some of you should become a part of the core and fight for ur rights. The reason I say life is not fair bc people like my husband and I we are not in IT or work for IT consulting companies yet this whole backlog is created bc of that particular industry and abuses to the H1B system and we still suffer. Also, what happens when u work for huge companies that usually don't hire h1b but once they made the step they don't want to loose you since you are an investment for them and hence the wait 5 years to file ur GC. Again life is not fair when the business needs you to move to a different position, or downsizes and you have to start from scratch all over again. Both my husband and I are here for 10 years and are on our 8th year of H1 and this is the first time for me to file 485 with 2006 PD and his labor still has to be filed yet again in Perm. My point life is not fair but you cannot blame others. Very few people are lucky and get GC in a year or year half. If you look most people had some struggle some worse than others. Just be grateful that someone is ready to atleast listen to you and help you fight this long battle.




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  • Karthikthiru
    06-08 03:46 PM
    I would definitely agree that even if CIR comes back it has lot of negative things for people who are comming legally like us. We need to think of a different strategy which does not require a legislation which brings lot of attention against us. I can personally say that I will atleast add 10 more members with recurring contributions in a short time. Right now I will double or triple by monthly recurring contributions. I do agree with the core members that we do need lot of money now to lobby. There are are communities which I don't want to say publicly - even though there are in small numbers they have laws passed in favour of them. It is very simple - we need the MONEY POWER

    Karthik




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  • vaishnavilakshmi
    07-09 08:51 PM
    I saw an Online case for I765 which has a receipt notice of 07/02..... If CIS accepting 07/02 cases? This is not my case.

    Receipt Number: SRC072105xxxx

    Application Type: I765, APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION

    Current Status: Case received and pending.

    On July 2, 2007, we received this I765 APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION, and mailed you a notice describing how we will process your case. Please follow any instructions on this notice. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service. We

    Hi sandiboy,

    The reciept of i-765 on 2nd july 2007,would have been for i-485s filed earlier when there dates were current.This is what i personally think on this!

    vaishu



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  • immique
    07-17 10:58 PM
    Excellent response. I have been a silent admirer of IV for some time. IV has represented the aspirations of all the EB applicants. people should understand that the US allotment of visas to foreign Nationals is only based on what is fair for the country (US). It does not matter to them to what country the applicant belongs but what matters is the qualifications and their benefit to the advancement of the US. I am appauled to see some of the members racheting up this irrational discussion about the spillovers when DOS clearly stated recently what the intent of the law was. the sooner they get over this issue, the better for them and for every one on the forum as the existing rules will NOT change regarding the spillover. we have to concentrate our efforts on how we can improve conditions for every body affected by this retroression. efforts aimed at one category and that too one country will almost certainy fail. I am also shocked to see a few EB3 I expressing anger over dates moving for EB2. personally if I see a person from my country getting his visa approved, then I would feel very happy for him even if I am waiting for some time. I know it will be difficult, but atleast spare some joy for your country men and women who are getting some well deserved relief after such a long wait. one of my old friends told me once "if you have a friend from India, don't rely on him to help you, because you will not get much help moreover some people will only try to pull you down, but if you take people from other countries, it is exactly the opposite as they try to help each other in every possible way". I agree that it is very distressing for every one that the dates are retrogressed, but now that EB2 has moved, all of a sudden some people woke up from a deep sleep and started making these arguments that have no legal basis. None of these people expressed their anger when EB3 ROW was being preferred over more qualified EB2 I and C and making EB2 unavailable. I know a lot of people from EB2 protested at this wrong interpretation of the law, but I don't remember anyone ever criticizing IV for not taking up their cause even though we knew all along that spillover from EB1 to EB2 retrogressed countries was the right interpretation of the law. now some people are asking IV to take up an issue that is straight forward illegal as was clearly explained by DOS in a recent bulletin. instead of wasting time and efforts on such futile suggestions, people should concentrate on making some constructive effort along with IV helping every one involved in retrogression.


    you must know something i don't.
    aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.

    the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
    this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)

    no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!

    so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.

    where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
    did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?

    in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.

    and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
    i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.

    you opened my eyes :-)




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  • Jimi_Hendrix
    12-11 04:25 PM
    See in Red.
    Does that mean you are not one of us?
    BTW I just asked another collegue in my office who is also an old IV member. He told me that you have a got a greencard recently. You were an IV member and you tried to hurt IV members by opposing the provision to file I485. You were scared that others with early PD will get to apply and your greencard will be delayed. I was stunned to find that we have such people posting on our forum and preaching others.

    Probably your colleague did not tell you about the fact that I have contributed money to IV and the fact that I was the first to get together a group of people in SO Cal to get organized and talk. So there is always the other side of the story. I have never tried to hurt IV. That is an opinion your friend/you have expressed. I expressed my opposition to a certain stance that IV took, which I believe is quite democratic. Your reason about me worrying about people with earlier PDs being able to file is false. I had a very old PD myself. I was opposed to opening up the flood gates to allowing everyone to file for EAD and AP which would jam the whole I485 system. I was of the view that we try fixing Name check and I485 as a priority.

    I still support IV and its cause.



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  • pappu
    05-19 11:35 AM
    can we keep sending the same message (by the same sender) to them everyday ?
    would that be ok ? :confused:

    Yes. But send only once a day so that it is not considered spam.




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  • rockstart
    07-18 10:18 PM
    If you are talking about IT then to code in Java or VB you do not even need Engineering degree. Any guy with basic education can do the job with equal ease.

    I think Eb3 people are still finding it hard to accept that it is only them resposible for being in EB3 blaming any body else will make no difference. :confused:

    even though I am in EB2..from my personal experience, the kind of IT contracts/jobs/assignments we (most of us) do, I dont think there is anything that an EB2 qualified can do which EB3 cannot do.

    I saw threads (this site or elsewhere) where EB2 ppl felt superior and blasted the threads where EB3-EB2 conversions were discussed.

    IMHO, I would always say, if it is legal and possible and beneficial, ppl should think of conversion.



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  • logiclife
    06-26 02:06 PM
    64 Ayes, 35 Nos

    the battle begins again... :(

    Its only going to take 5 people to break away from the 64. Those 35 "No" votes are the ones who want CIR dead NOW. They are not going to change. But those 64, its only going to take 5 people to walk away.

    There are 24 amendments. I think atleast 5 people would see their amendments fail on the floor of the house and probably another 5 atleast who would withdraw support because someone else's amendment passed. This baby is going DOWWWNNN this weekend per my estimate. I could be wrong but again, 24 amendments ? That's too many darts on a fragile compromise.




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  • gsc999
    02-08 03:15 PM
    I am volunteering at a temple next weekend and I will take some templates there for signatures


    Templar of the Temple Templates, have fun :)



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  • anilsal
    03-04 10:32 PM
    Overall - $5000.

    Advance - $2500 within 30 days to start the work.

    Is the overall work something like 100K that they have divided by the number of requests to yield 5K per request? Unlikely. I think they just sent standard 5K demand to each FOIA request to shut it down.




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  • franklin
    09-22 12:45 PM
    This question is not to undermine the effort, which was tremendous but just from a realistic point of view...

    I'm just curious to know how long it will take (or rather how long we are prepared to wait) for the impact of this rally to be felt and what are the changes that can be expected from USCIS as a result ?

    Say, after waiting for a few months, status quo continues, what further actions are planned to persist with IV's cause (i.e. more rallies or by other means) ?

    If the same question has been already raised, please ignore.

    Thanks.

    Change always takes time. Being in DC and visiting lawmakers was an incredible crash course for me in the practicalities of American politics. It was fascinating. I have to say it was one of the most satisfying things I've ever done in my life.

    Whilst we are pushing for rapid changes, the realties are that building the type of relationships that we were doing in DC can take time to foster change

    Anyway - lets close the thread. I was hoping to get some better information about how we can improve our motivation techniques for the future. I got many answers...



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  • gjoe
    12-10 05:30 PM
    It is good to know that state chapters are semi internet. I beg to differ with you regarding "feeling that you are in trouble". Expecting people to feel that they are in trouble by telling them so will never work. If someone thinks they are in trouble they would work out the solution on their own, they will not sit and wait for someone to help. This is a flawed assumption.

    Anyways I am going to join the IV chapter to share more of my ideas to help this cause. Already sent a PM to chanduv23

    State boards are kind of semi internet usgae only (Though not forum...). But those also do not make passive ones come ahead. So real issue is not the type of meet, the first real issue is feeling that you are in trouble..and 2nd is to stand up for fighting against that. And 3rd.. yes through IV we will be able to do this and so become active.




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  • eb3_nepa
    07-05 11:38 AM
    I guess they(morons, per your definition) are all techincally correct based on past memo's explaining USCIS stand on postmark dates,last working day in a month rule, the time at which the application was received(the revised bulletin was not yet published) etc etc

    no matter what, the decision of accepting the applications is at USCIS's discretion.They can reject applications received in the last week of June as well if they want to.Period.


    WHICH is why we need to contact the Lawmakers NOW about this and request more transparency.



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  • walking_dude
    10-07 10:45 AM
    CagedCactus / Chintu25,

    Get our chapter registered at the Registrar of State Chapters (through Paskal?).

    http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52




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  • braindrain
    06-02 03:50 PM
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  • Jaime
    09-04 04:35 PM
    I would love to attend the rally. However my financial condition at this time does not permit me. I could have booked a ticket on my credit card but all my cards are max out!
    You want to know why I am in this financial deep hole? Well, I have two sons in college and paying out of state tuition, that is over $17,000 per semester for both of them.
    My wife on H4 could not work until now that she has an EAD. It is retrogression that I should blame and I would love to do all in my power to obtain relief or bring the issue to the attention of the American public.
    In my own way I have contributed to IV both in cash and in kind. I have told me story in countless media interviews. I only wish I could do more for IV financially but alas I am not able to do that at this time.
    I would be in the rally in spirit....only I wish I could attend in person.

    Who else is in? Let's get fromnaija to Washington! Message me man!




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  • nrakkati
    03-20 08:36 PM
    you never worked for X and has been working w/o break with #2 ... u said, I believe.

    Write to USCIS simple explanation and show a proof such as HR letter stating your presence on active payroll continusly for all the term and run it through attorney, if you have. Else put together logically framed chronologically ordered history. Attach W2's for the years and demonstrate un-broken timeline.

    If their is nothing to hid or falsify, ... don't worry about anything. Good news is your case is active. People here ( no offense to anyone) will split hairs trying to answer simple issue. Keep it simple and truthfull and nothing adverse will happen.




    Yes. Your assumption
    "you never worked for X and has been working w/o break with #2 ... u said, I believe"
    is correct.

    Only thing that I want to point out is - Employer X sponsored my H1B (i do not know it is new H1 or transferred), but never moved from current Employer. Maintained valid status with current employer.

    When it comes to immigration stuff, I would not do any 'wrong doing' intentionally, not even as a last option.

    Not sure if I crossed the line here (obviously unknowingly) by having H1B with 'employer x' , but I was told it's all legal.

    Thanks for your input.




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  • pcs
    07-06 09:02 AM
    I had FREE company attorney but decided to file 485 etc. myself & it was so much better. You can easily do 140-485 etc yourself. Call me & I will tell you.

    If at all use an attorney for PERM. In my situation, even that was screwed up & I had to do that myself.

    It is high time, all of us capable of handling complex viral equations, do this simple job , spread the knowledge , save $$$ & contribute some savings to IV

    Best wishes




    redds777
    06-11 10:45 PM
    Hi Caliber

    IV is fighting for all EB Categories including H1Bs. When we went to the congressmen and senators this week we never brought up EB2 or EB3 we said all EB is facing backlogs .

    As i had said in my previous posts, we all need to rise up to the occation and raise our voice through IV . That is the only solution to all our problems. we need to be united and come forward to attend these events and raise funds .

    There are a lot of groups jockying for the Green cards on capitol hill for their interest groups . they are even lobbing for the recaptured visas and quotas etc.. Unless we EB people rise up and make our voices heard, nothing is gong to happen. please come forword and spread the word to your friends to support IV both by participation and financially . even donating 10 dollars a month goes a long way for our cause.

    we are 45k Members in IV . But donors are only 10% i heard. that is disappointing paercentage for the high skilled category. Think about it this way . we did not eat one day in a month in a restaurant and instead contributed for a worthy cause which will benifit all of us.

    IV has a lot of goodwill among most of the lawmakers. That is because of the sincere efforts putin by the core for advocating our cause. Guys believe me there are a lot of honest people in IV core and IV members who will make efficient use of the financial resources to maximise the bang for the buck. ( I have seen first hand how carefully the money is used during the advocasy days this week in DC ) .

    I would also like to point out that Not every time IV will be successfull in blocking an unfavourable amendment or bringing up support for a perticular issue . some times we have to givein to the more stronger groups . thats just how the business is done in DC . it is all based on the deal making in the offices on the hill. we should not be discouraged by the set backs when they happen. We need to be united and fight for our cause.


    Hope i have made it clear to all how important is to participate and contribute to IV for our cause.

    Thanks

    Kartik, as long as we, the EB3 do not come forward and collect huge amount for lobbying, we will continue to lurk here for many more years.

    Unfortunately the sad part is, whatever lobbying is done actually helped only EB2 I, may be due to a wrong notion by USCIS that all Hi-tech immigrants are EB2. This could be a fact as there are thousands of 245 cases that fell into EB3.

    Another bad thing was that USCIS release this VB yesterday which means one extra day to CRY.

    I do not blame any one, but ourselves. We do not want to spend money and hence dying in this process. No solution, but cry at every VB day.




    Libra
    07-21 10:55 AM
    I myself stucked for 1&1/2 yrs, even though RIR.

    Hi Libra,
    Your post is good overall, However I dont think you know how stuff works. I dont think you have any clue how people got stuck in BEC.

    You said ".. if a person with pd 2005 got approved and 2004 is stuck means there might be some problem with the case filing, if not yours.." for you information, in almost all cases, BEC cases are not even worked. In your example 2004 cases are not even worked on and 2005 cases are approved.

    So the cases in BEC are not even worked on, hope you understand that there is nothing wring with the applications of people got stuck in BEC and that not the reason why they are in BEC.



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