svn
04-10 05:12 PM
While I clearly do NOT agree with the original basis of this thread, here are the facts as I see it:
- We have an immigration backlog that affects a huge community and several people are only waking up to how serious this issue is (I will count myself in this category)
- IV has made significant contributions towards espousing our cause through the proper channels (via the press and lobbying)
- There is therefore greater interest today in an organization like IV and a desire to be part of the process including potentially financial contributions
- Hoewever, a lot of the new folks are looking for direction and a sense of belonging and action
- IV's policy of limited information dissemination (due to arguably valid reasons including the desire not to reveal any strategies to opponents of immigration) is not engendering the confidence required to welcome new members.
- An appeal for blind faith instead is just off-putting to most logical and thinking members and threads like these are nothing but an appeal for more information (stated rather poorly, I am afraid).
- In order to succeed, we clearly need to get everyone united
The reality is - IV needs a lot lot lot funds,IV needs manpower, IV needs your skills, IV needs your unity, IV does not need your criticism because if you criticize IV it won't help you.
So you and I together - united we stand - we build IV - if we do not want to take that extra step - we all suffer...............
Chandu, I chose to quote you since everything you are saying makes a lot of sense ( I also appreciate all of your posts and all the work you have done for so many years). In fact, with Obama's administration at least ready to talk about immigration, I think we have the perfect opportunity to get our point of view across through lobbying, which as you have said, will take a lot of funds. However, that said, is it really hard for the current team to undertstand that there are a lot of folks out there who want to contribute but would at least like to be informed on what is going on? (see poll thread I started: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24858)
I completely understand that those who are working hard on our cause don't really have the time to update others, especially given everything else in life they have to deal with. However, when there are people ready to take on this task, why the hesitation and the defensiveness in sharing information? We really need to move involve more people in this effort to have any chance of succeeding. I know a lot of folks have said something to the effect "it's not our job to inspire people - if they cannot be inspired to contribute, let them go to hell". However, I do think it's the job of leadership to inspire and get more people behind them or else no one will succeed - I really wish the Core team moves in this direction.
Disclaimer: I am a recent "Donor" and have certainly not put in anywhere near the amount of effort or money that several of the committed members like you have
- We have an immigration backlog that affects a huge community and several people are only waking up to how serious this issue is (I will count myself in this category)
- IV has made significant contributions towards espousing our cause through the proper channels (via the press and lobbying)
- There is therefore greater interest today in an organization like IV and a desire to be part of the process including potentially financial contributions
- Hoewever, a lot of the new folks are looking for direction and a sense of belonging and action
- IV's policy of limited information dissemination (due to arguably valid reasons including the desire not to reveal any strategies to opponents of immigration) is not engendering the confidence required to welcome new members.
- An appeal for blind faith instead is just off-putting to most logical and thinking members and threads like these are nothing but an appeal for more information (stated rather poorly, I am afraid).
- In order to succeed, we clearly need to get everyone united
The reality is - IV needs a lot lot lot funds,IV needs manpower, IV needs your skills, IV needs your unity, IV does not need your criticism because if you criticize IV it won't help you.
So you and I together - united we stand - we build IV - if we do not want to take that extra step - we all suffer...............
Chandu, I chose to quote you since everything you are saying makes a lot of sense ( I also appreciate all of your posts and all the work you have done for so many years). In fact, with Obama's administration at least ready to talk about immigration, I think we have the perfect opportunity to get our point of view across through lobbying, which as you have said, will take a lot of funds. However, that said, is it really hard for the current team to undertstand that there are a lot of folks out there who want to contribute but would at least like to be informed on what is going on? (see poll thread I started: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24858)
I completely understand that those who are working hard on our cause don't really have the time to update others, especially given everything else in life they have to deal with. However, when there are people ready to take on this task, why the hesitation and the defensiveness in sharing information? We really need to move involve more people in this effort to have any chance of succeeding. I know a lot of folks have said something to the effect "it's not our job to inspire people - if they cannot be inspired to contribute, let them go to hell". However, I do think it's the job of leadership to inspire and get more people behind them or else no one will succeed - I really wish the Core team moves in this direction.
Disclaimer: I am a recent "Donor" and have certainly not put in anywhere near the amount of effort or money that several of the committed members like you have
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walking_dude
09-20 02:16 PM
Nothing succeeds without leadership and proper plans. If we go by the current rule - every one is a leader - we will learn soon 'Too many Cooks spoiled the broth'. If each person steering the boat paddles in a different direction, boat will go in circles.
Focus is the most important factor in success. Right now, I'm focussed on what's getting posted here, as I don't have anything else to focus on till I hear the next secret broadcast , which I never get.
Sales/Marketing is severely lacked in promoting State chapters. IV website does provide good info on filing 485, other forms, suggestions etc. What's the incentive in becoming a State chapter member? What are the costs vs. benefits? Unless people find benefits they'll not volunteer. It's hard to sell only 'action items'. Baits such as Free legal help, help filling Immigration forms (by experienced members) etc. may motivate people and make them sympathetic to our cause.
If we stick to 'Don't ask what we can do for you, ask what you can do for us', we won't go far with it.
The answer is we all will have to bell the cat...and it will take more than a few attempts to do that.
IMHO, we should focus on what we can do rather than focusing on what some people could have done or what some one did to dampen the last attempt.
People will always find time for what is important to them; all we can do is try to make it more convenient and keep giving then enough opportunities.
We should have some sales/marketing people on this forum; they could have told us about how long it takes to convert a prospect to a customer.
Have faith my friend...
Focus is the most important factor in success. Right now, I'm focussed on what's getting posted here, as I don't have anything else to focus on till I hear the next secret broadcast , which I never get.
Sales/Marketing is severely lacked in promoting State chapters. IV website does provide good info on filing 485, other forms, suggestions etc. What's the incentive in becoming a State chapter member? What are the costs vs. benefits? Unless people find benefits they'll not volunteer. It's hard to sell only 'action items'. Baits such as Free legal help, help filling Immigration forms (by experienced members) etc. may motivate people and make them sympathetic to our cause.
If we stick to 'Don't ask what we can do for you, ask what you can do for us', we won't go far with it.
The answer is we all will have to bell the cat...and it will take more than a few attempts to do that.
IMHO, we should focus on what we can do rather than focusing on what some people could have done or what some one did to dampen the last attempt.
People will always find time for what is important to them; all we can do is try to make it more convenient and keep giving then enough opportunities.
We should have some sales/marketing people on this forum; they could have told us about how long it takes to convert a prospect to a customer.
Have faith my friend...
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mallu
03-24 11:05 AM
It's really meaningless for you to keep talking about "too many here from EU". ......
No . I don't think it is meaningless. It is just a reminder to those who boarded here earlier ( not too in the distant past , say before 200 years ) and now concerned about controlling diversity .
.....
When this country starts the immigration law, does the law say only people from Asia is limited to 7% and not for people from EU ?
......
It doesn't matter if 7% is applied now to some of EU. Already many are significantly represented.
I perfectly understand. Those who got earlier ganged togoether and devised 'beatiful' laws that fits 'them', telling others 'Hey, the gates closed, right behind us' .
No . I don't think it is meaningless. It is just a reminder to those who boarded here earlier ( not too in the distant past , say before 200 years ) and now concerned about controlling diversity .
.....
When this country starts the immigration law, does the law say only people from Asia is limited to 7% and not for people from EU ?
......
It doesn't matter if 7% is applied now to some of EU. Already many are significantly represented.
I perfectly understand. Those who got earlier ganged togoether and devised 'beatiful' laws that fits 'them', telling others 'Hey, the gates closed, right behind us' .
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thepaew
05-30 11:29 AM
Millions of Indians cannot fix the bureaucracy at CGNY - but we expect a counter-worker at AF to bypass the French visa bureaucracy. AF is a crappy airline - but it is not racist. Good Luck.
True, but Airline CAN give some 'guarantee' to get the transit visa for passengers. I flew Singapore Airline, and they arrange transit passenger to take a tour of the city, if the stopover is , i guess, more then 3 or 4 hrs.
So, I don't buy the argument that its not in their hand. If they wanted they could have done it. Period.
When one group right in front of your own eyes gets to stay in a hotel and the other group are left high and dry to loiter in the airport (citing they dont have transit visa), I call it absolutely a kind of Discrimination. I dont give a crap about Transit Visa.
Wow!! you are generalizing here about one community here. So, you mean to say folks from Boston, US are going to runaway in Paris to seek asylum because they dont like the homes and jobs in US????? Yeah!!! Paris is a paradise, and everybody on this planet wants to somehow get there..
True, but Airline CAN give some 'guarantee' to get the transit visa for passengers. I flew Singapore Airline, and they arrange transit passenger to take a tour of the city, if the stopover is , i guess, more then 3 or 4 hrs.
So, I don't buy the argument that its not in their hand. If they wanted they could have done it. Period.
When one group right in front of your own eyes gets to stay in a hotel and the other group are left high and dry to loiter in the airport (citing they dont have transit visa), I call it absolutely a kind of Discrimination. I dont give a crap about Transit Visa.
Wow!! you are generalizing here about one community here. So, you mean to say folks from Boston, US are going to runaway in Paris to seek asylum because they dont like the homes and jobs in US????? Yeah!!! Paris is a paradise, and everybody on this planet wants to somehow get there..
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needhelp!
03-04 09:56 PM
I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is: http://download206.mediafire.com/xwcsdggj4yjg/blrmnntd10w/FOIA_USCISResponse.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/?blrmnntd10w)
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
____________________________
Here is the original letter template sent to USCIS
FOIA Request for number of pending Employment based AOS/I-485 Applications
John Doe,
200 Main Street,
Chicago,IL,60001
National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
P. O. Box 648010
Lee’s Summit, MO 64064-8010
Dear FOIA officer,
Several Employment based categories have been retrogressed for 4 years now and the exact number of pending AOS applications sorted by priority dates in the employment-based category is unknown. Department of state has been establishing the cut off in priority dates based on educated guesses and approximations. DOS and none of the Employment based applicants know the number of applications pending per category, per country sorted by priority dates. DOS visa office expressed similar concern in Oct 08 bulletin.
“Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.”
This information would be helpful in determining the priority dates accurately and in determining when a visa number will be available for a given priority date in a certain category. I request you to provide me with the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved/denied) in the following categories sorted on a priority date basis from 2001.
EB-2 China & India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
EB-3 China, India, Mexico & Philippines & Rest of the World: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
Thanks,
John Doe.
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
____________________________
Here is the original letter template sent to USCIS
FOIA Request for number of pending Employment based AOS/I-485 Applications
John Doe,
200 Main Street,
Chicago,IL,60001
National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
P. O. Box 648010
Lee’s Summit, MO 64064-8010
Dear FOIA officer,
Several Employment based categories have been retrogressed for 4 years now and the exact number of pending AOS applications sorted by priority dates in the employment-based category is unknown. Department of state has been establishing the cut off in priority dates based on educated guesses and approximations. DOS and none of the Employment based applicants know the number of applications pending per category, per country sorted by priority dates. DOS visa office expressed similar concern in Oct 08 bulletin.
“Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.”
This information would be helpful in determining the priority dates accurately and in determining when a visa number will be available for a given priority date in a certain category. I request you to provide me with the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved/denied) in the following categories sorted on a priority date basis from 2001.
EB-2 China & India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
EB-3 China, India, Mexico & Philippines & Rest of the World: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
Thanks,
John Doe.
Tito_ortiz
12-01 11:04 AM
Ah, ah. You just gave a very good suggestion. One of us should dress like Gandhi. That would be a peaceful way to bring attention to our cause. I can see that.
Any thin, bald and friendly Indian fellow out there could volunteer ?
Also, the fellow who suggested the free MATH tutoring, SAT, GMAT/GRE is a genius !! That could be a very creative and peaceful way to protest !
Good thread !!
There are two things we can do to fight for devil of Retrogression. Similarly Mahata Ganghi did for Independence
1. Release stress, frustration, negativity encounter to all of us due to retrogression. Positive points are highlighed in this thread by many friends. Mahatma Gandhi also did the same to overcome enger, frustration of millions of people.
2. Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
This is just my thought !!! I am not sure every one like it or not. When MLK Jr inspired by Gandhi philosophy and made revolution, why can't we?
Any thin, bald and friendly Indian fellow out there could volunteer ?
Also, the fellow who suggested the free MATH tutoring, SAT, GMAT/GRE is a genius !! That could be a very creative and peaceful way to protest !
Good thread !!
There are two things we can do to fight for devil of Retrogression. Similarly Mahata Ganghi did for Independence
1. Release stress, frustration, negativity encounter to all of us due to retrogression. Positive points are highlighed in this thread by many friends. Mahatma Gandhi also did the same to overcome enger, frustration of millions of people.
2. Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
This is just my thought !!! I am not sure every one like it or not. When MLK Jr inspired by Gandhi philosophy and made revolution, why can't we?
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bigboy007
06-09 08:18 PM
I dont know why people are thinking CIR will be advantageous :
WHat does CIR do :
Lets divide in to Four categories :
1. PPL who has to still enter US
2. PPL who have not started GC
3. PPL whose Labor pending in BEC
4. PPL whose 140 pending or approved.
In each i have not seen advantages but these are disadvantages , please enlighten me about advantages over current system in each cases.
Case -1: THere are enough provisions like Increase in H1B fees, Eliminating contracting etc that would effect and truely we may not be worrying about this in this context.
Case -2: For people who have not stated GC yet , its utter chaos, as per the dates in CIR. Now point system is not tested, there are severe imbalancements , No up system yet in INS , no yet personnel allocation . I dont see any reason INS will be on to this even if passed for atleast 2 years.
Based on this even if people say 5 years or so , no one exactly knows it might even take more than 7 years becoz of initial filing delays , accessing points , etc . What about extensions in H1B , anyways H1B system is so scrwed up consultants will be reduced by atleast 50% , and only survive who can find an work around. after all this High filing will force many out. I dont see anything good with new system. No big diff in Visa allocations to say that it will be faster for ppl. H1B Cant be renewed 3 years. Now is there any advantage over old sytem ? I dont think so .
Case -3: People who were stuck in BEC. Its bigger problem for many people who are renewing H1 based on this. Now that cant do it . SO its again their issue.
Case -4: People who got I140 approved or pending , They wont be effected anyways.
Also there will be labor somewhere as becoz there will be some clause that aims at not displacing any american worker for sure.
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With all these there is only one drawback of current system , i.e. backlog. that is not addressed anyways in new system so whats the point?
Only if cantwell amendment finds its place in current form then is a hope in a hurricane else its utter waste.
WHat does CIR do :
Lets divide in to Four categories :
1. PPL who has to still enter US
2. PPL who have not started GC
3. PPL whose Labor pending in BEC
4. PPL whose 140 pending or approved.
In each i have not seen advantages but these are disadvantages , please enlighten me about advantages over current system in each cases.
Case -1: THere are enough provisions like Increase in H1B fees, Eliminating contracting etc that would effect and truely we may not be worrying about this in this context.
Case -2: For people who have not stated GC yet , its utter chaos, as per the dates in CIR. Now point system is not tested, there are severe imbalancements , No up system yet in INS , no yet personnel allocation . I dont see any reason INS will be on to this even if passed for atleast 2 years.
Based on this even if people say 5 years or so , no one exactly knows it might even take more than 7 years becoz of initial filing delays , accessing points , etc . What about extensions in H1B , anyways H1B system is so scrwed up consultants will be reduced by atleast 50% , and only survive who can find an work around. after all this High filing will force many out. I dont see anything good with new system. No big diff in Visa allocations to say that it will be faster for ppl. H1B Cant be renewed 3 years. Now is there any advantage over old sytem ? I dont think so .
Case -3: People who were stuck in BEC. Its bigger problem for many people who are renewing H1 based on this. Now that cant do it . SO its again their issue.
Case -4: People who got I140 approved or pending , They wont be effected anyways.
Also there will be labor somewhere as becoz there will be some clause that aims at not displacing any american worker for sure.
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With all these there is only one drawback of current system , i.e. backlog. that is not addressed anyways in new system so whats the point?
Only if cantwell amendment finds its place in current form then is a hope in a hurricane else its utter waste.
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gbarquero
09-04 01:25 PM
Very good. If I can go, I am sure you can go too. If I can afford to buy some plane tickets, you can too. If I can take a day off, you can do it too. This little time and money is nothing compared to your next few visits to your attorney's office when is time to renew that I am sure you're tired of doing.
I want to do it for my family, you do it for your family and then educate somebody else so they can go too. Next thing you know, we'll be a lot and we'll be heard.
If you don't go to D.C. you'll feel bad when you see that we succeeded and you did nothing about it!!!! just taking a "free ride" All of us are enjoying the results from the flower campaign and the S.J. rally. So we know we can do it again.
When you get your GC faster than expected, you'll feel so guilty.
We'll be there, I want to be proud that I did my part!!!!!
Thank you guys!!!
I want to do it for my family, you do it for your family and then educate somebody else so they can go too. Next thing you know, we'll be a lot and we'll be heard.
If you don't go to D.C. you'll feel bad when you see that we succeeded and you did nothing about it!!!! just taking a "free ride" All of us are enjoying the results from the flower campaign and the S.J. rally. So we know we can do it again.
When you get your GC faster than expected, you'll feel so guilty.
We'll be there, I want to be proud that I did my part!!!!!
Thank you guys!!!
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gk_2000
03-28 08:32 PM
No its not, this is the 3rd time I've seen you use that and similar signs.
Now Tony, unless you are lacking in any confidence, you wouldn't be acting out like a big baby here. Now shut the trap up and learn to ignore the irrelevant bickerings.
Now Tony, unless you are lacking in any confidence, you wouldn't be acting out like a big baby here. Now shut the trap up and learn to ignore the irrelevant bickerings.
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thomachan72
10-01 04:58 PM
I think somebody should take an initiative and start a new thread called "THE BASHING THREAD" where everybody could go, (occasionally or in some cases very frequently) whenever we feel dejected and let it on whoever is active there. You could also invite your prey into the bashing thread by saying politely "If you are brave meet me in the bashing thread in 5 minutes".
In case somebody starts a new thread (for eg:- something like this very thread about airline induced missery) and if you feel angry at that person for doing so, you could simply post in the thread "Hallo friend please visit the BASHING THREAD for my reply" instead of hurling personal abuses in every thread we could effectively confine our ego created frustrations/anger into one single thread.
Computer gurus could work on it and try to create some special effects also, like if I bash somebody the degree to which that person is hurt should be reflected by color change or some sort of visual reference.
In case somebody starts a new thread (for eg:- something like this very thread about airline induced missery) and if you feel angry at that person for doing so, you could simply post in the thread "Hallo friend please visit the BASHING THREAD for my reply" instead of hurling personal abuses in every thread we could effectively confine our ego created frustrations/anger into one single thread.
Computer gurus could work on it and try to create some special effects also, like if I bash somebody the degree to which that person is hurt should be reflected by color change or some sort of visual reference.
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10-05 10:04 AM
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singhsa3
07-17 10:49 PM
If you find /or suspect one, do not forget to post abt them here
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10273
I am aganist amnesty to these illegal posters who post offensive messages.
We are here legally. We follow all the rules, contribute. :)
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10273
I am aganist amnesty to these illegal posters who post offensive messages.
We are here legally. We follow all the rules, contribute. :)
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IfYouSeekAmy
08-06 08:39 AM
Canada and Australia are good backup options. You want to apply for one of these countries as a backup while waiting for your GC.
I m a new applicant for EB 3 gc born in india.....just starting my process......with my PD being sometime in later half of 2009,do u think canada is a better option?......EB 3 india right now looks like a good 10-12 years wait time!!.......pls advice about canada immigration and is it a viable option?
I m a new applicant for EB 3 gc born in india.....just starting my process......with my PD being sometime in later half of 2009,do u think canada is a better option?......EB 3 india right now looks like a good 10-12 years wait time!!.......pls advice about canada immigration and is it a viable option?
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coopheal
03-14 12:18 PM
People with EB3-India may not expect any kind of fast movement in near future, unless law changes. It will be in snail phase. It is waste discussion to analyze howmany people filled EB3 LC from India in 2002,2003 etc. Generally EB3 is very high demand catagory from all accross the world. EB3 contains skilled worker catagory including cooks, nurses, and so many many non-professional occupations. All the discusion are focussed on demand by Indian IT folks, by ignoring other spectrum of the demand by other group of peoples. Therfore no matter what; EB3-India will get only 3000 EB3 GC per year (Approxmatly 1500 primary).
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
I agree porting to EB2 will be much faster.
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
I agree porting to EB2 will be much faster.
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ivx
05-21 05:26 PM
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Way to go Sugaur. Thanks you all for the effort.
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Way to go Sugaur. Thanks you all for the effort.
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Totoro
01-26 03:37 PM
Well it seems the idea to get a Stimulus for 2008 for people having spouses with ITIN is nearing dead end (no action). Now the government is planning another stimulus. I think we should work on taking the necessary steps to prevent the same happening this year (being dropped out). I think we should raise awareness and write to all people including President Obama.
Ideas / comments?
The problem is, that for all my efforts, people just don't seem to care. The only reason I had any success was the embarrassment I caused the government because of all the soldiers who were excluded. Immigrants in the US are viewed by most people as an unwanted scourge.
My employer has also been no help at all. I have been looking for work outside of the US, but unfortunately, the economic situation makes that a bit more challenging. Sorry if I sound pessimistic. That is just my personal experience.
Ideas / comments?
The problem is, that for all my efforts, people just don't seem to care. The only reason I had any success was the embarrassment I caused the government because of all the soldiers who were excluded. Immigrants in the US are viewed by most people as an unwanted scourge.
My employer has also been no help at all. I have been looking for work outside of the US, but unfortunately, the economic situation makes that a bit more challenging. Sorry if I sound pessimistic. That is just my personal experience.
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07-19 09:05 PM
yeaaa, these press releases are coming every week these days ...
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02-11 01:30 PM
Thanks for your pledge.. Looking for the same spirit to awaken in all our members.
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
I will do 50+ from my side over the weekend , sorry shadowing till now will post exact as i mail all these. I will try to pump up as much as i can .
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immigration07
04-19 10:19 AM
Bunnyboy is a member of IV's forum and he had a magic sequence number to call USCIS, that will hit the USCIS IO not the CS dept.
Fdbl another name of fragomen. I wanted to say that fragomen lawers are well respected within USCIS. The IO was very polite after hearing my case was filed though fragomen.
Till now i or my wife does not have any RFE throughout our L1/L2 to GC. Now GC is in hand.
I know they are little slow, but you have to followup to make it fast. One thing is they donot take shortcut in process. Thats the reason many are frustrated. Desi lawers and companies can go to any extent and we should not compare that with a professional law firm.
I am wondering your logic for using "desi lawyers". They graduated through the same system as any other "book smart" attorney in the "smart" fragomen system. I think it is always a negative to go through a large law firm. An association with a large firm must not be confused with efficiency. Who knows...might be freebies which they provide to HR grp of the large firms keeps them in the picture.......................
Fdbl another name of fragomen. I wanted to say that fragomen lawers are well respected within USCIS. The IO was very polite after hearing my case was filed though fragomen.
Till now i or my wife does not have any RFE throughout our L1/L2 to GC. Now GC is in hand.
I know they are little slow, but you have to followup to make it fast. One thing is they donot take shortcut in process. Thats the reason many are frustrated. Desi lawers and companies can go to any extent and we should not compare that with a professional law firm.
I am wondering your logic for using "desi lawyers". They graduated through the same system as any other "book smart" attorney in the "smart" fragomen system. I think it is always a negative to go through a large law firm. An association with a large firm must not be confused with efficiency. Who knows...might be freebies which they provide to HR grp of the large firms keeps them in the picture.......................
chanduv23
02-08 11:27 PM
If your statement has been endorsed by the core that they want a million number then forget about this effort.I am feeling sad that i was part of this effort.I am not going to be part anymore unless i see some direct addressals from core to do it hence forth.I wish your million signature drive doesnt drive away many more like me.
Come on dear friend. If core does not endorse something - they will let the members know. IV is just not core or chapter leaders, IV is everyone. Everyone can take responsibility and do something. Core just manages and chapter leaders just help implement stuff, IVs strength is its members.
Now different members come from different places, different backgrounds, different perspectives, so there could be a change in the general approach. Working towards a cause must never turn you down.
Come on dear friend. If core does not endorse something - they will let the members know. IV is just not core or chapter leaders, IV is everyone. Everyone can take responsibility and do something. Core just manages and chapter leaders just help implement stuff, IVs strength is its members.
Now different members come from different places, different backgrounds, different perspectives, so there could be a change in the general approach. Working towards a cause must never turn you down.
umndude
06-12 02:29 PM
Just because you are affected, it is wrong to think everyone around you are cheats. If you are so qualified and a real stud in technicals, get a job in Google or Apple. Go apply for EB1 or EB2. Get a green card. Get a life. Don't keep talking as if someone else has eaten your slice of bread. It is just because you did not try.
I hate to say this and I hope I am wrong. All of us EB3 folks need to start speaking up or else our fate is sealed. I do not see any hopes of CIR passing. There is always going to be some political backlash due to the AMNESTY factor.
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
I hate to say this and I hope I am wrong. All of us EB3 folks need to start speaking up or else our fate is sealed. I do not see any hopes of CIR passing. There is always going to be some political backlash due to the AMNESTY factor.
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
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